I can relate to the Red Pill community. I started with Richard Cooper on YouTube putting videos out about entrepreneurship and cars that transitioned to the Red Pill community that was good in the beginning with Rollo and other YouTube creators. But as Richard evolved his you tube channel he realized it was as he refered to it as a manoswamp. So he broke away and focused on women relationships and his own mens community. I followed it for awhile but eventually found substack and it's creators and feel this is a better direction for my growth as a man. Like you I am greatfull to the red pill content for starting me down this path of evolving as a man but it went one direction and I went another direction and have have not regretted that decision.
I’ve watched your progression. Yes, Social Media has its risks. On the other hand, there can be a great deal of value. Here, the value for me has been to casually observe. Though we didn’t spend a single day together after a meetup in Miami, I was observing you. Before this feels weird, please let me explain. I’m 51. I got my fu money in my 40s. I came off a painful divorce. In the red pill space we shared, you lined up most consistently with my circumstances. Though just a couple of years older, I look(ed) up to you.
Point here. We’re told not to marry in certain forums. We know logically, it’s an incredibly risky deal. On the other hand, I’ll go here..I miss being married.
I noticed you decided to make a life choice, marry, when the echo chamber said…never do it.
What led you to decide this shift “back” was right for you? This might be a good post in a future entry. Thanks for listening. Keep up the entries. Some of us…are observing.
Thanks, Robert. You know, it’s really weird to me we only met the one time and that we haven’t stayed in touch much. We should catch up on a Zoom call soon.
I found great benefit in my decade- long time in the one percent group. Made a handful of close friendships.
My gut always told me I was a round peg in a square hole outside of the self improvement ("chase excellence, not women") that initially caught my attention, the pivot towards women versus chasing excellence wasn't for me, especially being in a successful relationship for a quarter century with the same woman, building a successful business and raising a masculine son who is now a teenager.
The part hit the bullseye of "choosing" to be with my family and attending our son's year round competitive high end sport tournaments (plays at high level and has won provincials and national championships) versus attending events was what I was told was why I was removed from the group. Even when offered a free seat at the events which I was grateful for and will always appreciate, my son's year round events took priority for me as I promised him I would never miss a tournament.
Went through all the emotions associated with someone who 'felt' betrayed by friends for reporting that I wasn't a fit any longer, but have accepted that they did me a favour andI now have peace of mind and am slowly coming around to forgiveness.
Men need to look at the man in the mirror and fix himself first and not worry about woman let alone form group think that woman are to blame for all the problems in their lives.
Eternally grateful to being part of the group and what I contributed through casual events I put on to hang out with the guys (ie. Axe forging day, Blue Mountain, dinners and opening my home, skiing...) I still couldn't shake the feeling in my gut that I truly didn't belong with the pivot towards women.
Exiting the rage phase slowly of what felt like betrayal by friends for choosing my family over events, I now focus on health, exercise, faith and my business and things are quite literally falling into place and opportunities in business and life are abundant. Making unreal connections with men of incredible character and prosperity unlike anything I've come across in the past.
Grateful the crutch was removed and wish everyone the best moving forward.
I'm in a second marriage, now for many years, and one thing I've learned is that many men (certainly me, in the past) grossly underestimate and undervalue the role of love in women's lives and beings. I don't mean romantic love of spouse, though there's that, it's part of the larger theme. I mean that love is virtually a philosophical centering for many women. It's romanticized and infantilized in our culture, but not treated very seriously as a basis for ethics, culture, friendship, understanding of beauty, fair dealing, etc.
Great Post Vic,
I can relate to the Red Pill community. I started with Richard Cooper on YouTube putting videos out about entrepreneurship and cars that transitioned to the Red Pill community that was good in the beginning with Rollo and other YouTube creators. But as Richard evolved his you tube channel he realized it was as he refered to it as a manoswamp. So he broke away and focused on women relationships and his own mens community. I followed it for awhile but eventually found substack and it's creators and feel this is a better direction for my growth as a man. Like you I am greatfull to the red pill content for starting me down this path of evolving as a man but it went one direction and I went another direction and have have not regretted that decision.
Thanks, Mark.
I’ve watched your progression. Yes, Social Media has its risks. On the other hand, there can be a great deal of value. Here, the value for me has been to casually observe. Though we didn’t spend a single day together after a meetup in Miami, I was observing you. Before this feels weird, please let me explain. I’m 51. I got my fu money in my 40s. I came off a painful divorce. In the red pill space we shared, you lined up most consistently with my circumstances. Though just a couple of years older, I look(ed) up to you.
Point here. We’re told not to marry in certain forums. We know logically, it’s an incredibly risky deal. On the other hand, I’ll go here..I miss being married.
I noticed you decided to make a life choice, marry, when the echo chamber said…never do it.
What led you to decide this shift “back” was right for you? This might be a good post in a future entry. Thanks for listening. Keep up the entries. Some of us…are observing.
Thanks, Robert. You know, it’s really weird to me we only met the one time and that we haven’t stayed in touch much. We should catch up on a Zoom call soon.
“Find the men who see the version of you that’s being built, not the one that was broken.”
I like that. It’s seeing the potential in someone and, in turn, nurturing their belief it in their own value.
Yep. Thanks, Ben.
Relatable post Vic!
I found great benefit in my decade- long time in the one percent group. Made a handful of close friendships.
My gut always told me I was a round peg in a square hole outside of the self improvement ("chase excellence, not women") that initially caught my attention, the pivot towards women versus chasing excellence wasn't for me, especially being in a successful relationship for a quarter century with the same woman, building a successful business and raising a masculine son who is now a teenager.
The part hit the bullseye of "choosing" to be with my family and attending our son's year round competitive high end sport tournaments (plays at high level and has won provincials and national championships) versus attending events was what I was told was why I was removed from the group. Even when offered a free seat at the events which I was grateful for and will always appreciate, my son's year round events took priority for me as I promised him I would never miss a tournament.
Went through all the emotions associated with someone who 'felt' betrayed by friends for reporting that I wasn't a fit any longer, but have accepted that they did me a favour andI now have peace of mind and am slowly coming around to forgiveness.
Men need to look at the man in the mirror and fix himself first and not worry about woman let alone form group think that woman are to blame for all the problems in their lives.
Eternally grateful to being part of the group and what I contributed through casual events I put on to hang out with the guys (ie. Axe forging day, Blue Mountain, dinners and opening my home, skiing...) I still couldn't shake the feeling in my gut that I truly didn't belong with the pivot towards women.
Exiting the rage phase slowly of what felt like betrayal by friends for choosing my family over events, I now focus on health, exercise, faith and my business and things are quite literally falling into place and opportunities in business and life are abundant. Making unreal connections with men of incredible character and prosperity unlike anything I've come across in the past.
Grateful the crutch was removed and wish everyone the best moving forward.
I'm in a second marriage, now for many years, and one thing I've learned is that many men (certainly me, in the past) grossly underestimate and undervalue the role of love in women's lives and beings. I don't mean romantic love of spouse, though there's that, it's part of the larger theme. I mean that love is virtually a philosophical centering for many women. It's romanticized and infantilized in our culture, but not treated very seriously as a basis for ethics, culture, friendship, understanding of beauty, fair dealing, etc.